Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch> Mon, 24 August 2015 17:18 UTC
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:18:32 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
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That's not my point. My point is that this group has not considered the other parts of the proposal, nor should it. So this group should not make a comment that can be understood as a comment on the other parts of the proposal. Best Richard On August 24, 2015 7:06:22 PM CEST, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote: >Richard, > >On 8/24/15 7:03 PM, Richard Hill wrote: >> I object to Eliot's version, because it implies that this group has >> studied all parts of the ICG proposal and approves all parts. >> > >I don't find this a credible objection. For one thing, you have not >shown how the proposal would adversely impact the IETF. Please ground >your criticism in specifics as relates to the IETF. > >Eliot > > >> Best Richard >> >> On August 24, 2015 6:38:18 PM CEST, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> >wrote: >> >> Hi Leslie, >> >> On 8/24/15 6:22 PM, Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat) wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Bearing in mind the context below, it seems to us that the text >>> currently under discussion for consensus (with thanks to Brian >>> and Richard, all) is: >>> >>> “The IETF IANAPLAN working group supports the draft ICG proposal >>> going forward, as far as the Protocol Parameters function is >>> concerned. The IETF raised two transition points that are >>> mentioned in Paragraph 3062 of the proposal. We would ask that >>> they be referenced in Part 0, Section V of the proposal as >well.” >> >> I don't think this text is there yet, so please class this as an >> objection. The issue remains that this reads as though we are >> approving a single portion of text that we have contributed. >> Realistically I do not know how the ICG would take such a >> comment. It is akin to saying nothing, since support for the >text >> we contributed is well known. And therefore, we would be better >> off saying nothing. Rather than do that, however, I propose an >> alternative, as follows: >> >> The IETF IANAPLAN working group has reviewed the ICG proposal >> and found no concerns relating to our activities, and >> therefore support its advancement on that basis. The IETF >> raised two transition points that are mentioned in Paragraph >> 3062 of the proposal. We would ask that they be referenced >in >> Part 0, Section V of the proposal as well. >> >> >> This makes clear that we are not making statements beyond how >this >> proposal will impact us. >> >> Eliot >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Ianaplan mailing list >> Ianaplan@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan >> >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >brevity. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Ianaplan mailing list >Ianaplan@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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