Re: [Ianaplan] [CWG-Stewardship] ICG request concerning IANA trademark and iana.org domain name

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Sat, 20 June 2015 21:46 UTC

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On 6/20/2015 2:40 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote:
> so you are in some ways saying that the 3 organisations should
> « co-own » the trademark and provide a license to ICANN/PTI for its use?


I was careful not to suggest a solution, nevermind not suggesting that
one.

Within the IETF, the preference has been to say that there is no
problem, or that it isn't worth attending to.  I'm addressing that.

Before we can worry about how to deal with this, we have to agree that
it needs to be dealt with.

d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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