Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 10 February 2015 19:34 UTC
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Miles, On 11/02/2015 02:33, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Alissa Cooper wrote: >> Hi Bernard, >> >> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com <mailto:bernard.aboba@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> I'm fine with the language Ray has proposed. >>> >>> In terms of work the ICG needs to do, there is more than just a recommendation on who holds the trademark and domain. There >>> is the issue of where the domain is pointed to, in the event that the IANA functions are no longer handled by a single >>> operator. Ideally the ICG will come up with language that describes the process by which this is decided among the IETF, >>> RIRs and names communities. And of course, this process would need to be agreed to by the IETF trust. >> > > Why is this such a big deal? We're talking about A web server, with redirects for different portions of the site, to the > various organizations that the IANA functions have been divied up to. > > One big theme, when discussing why the IETF should not care about the domain was that there were technical workarounds - i.e., > using a different domain name for the IETF portion of the IANA functions. THAT would be a right royal pain. This is a case > where a simple, technical fix, works just fine. > > How about some simple language, along the lines of: > > "The IETF Trust will provide a web server No it won't. Its job is to hold IPR for the benefit of the IETF, period. (Speaking as one of the original Trustees, BTW.) > that contains one informational home page, and redirects all other traffic to sites > maintained by the organizations currently delegated the various IANA functions. > The IETF Trust will license the use of > appropriate trademarks to organizations currently delegated the various IANA functions." That it could do, as well as delegating the right to use the domain name to a suitable operator. Brian
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