Re: [Ianaplan] feedback regarding the combined proposal

Brian E Carpenter <> Mon, 10 August 2015 00:36 UTC

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On 10/08/2015 03:11, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> On Aug 9, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Eliot Lear <> wrote:
>> If this agreement is in place, great.  That should be stated.  If the
>> agreement is not yet in place, then that should be stated in the
>> transition section (Section V) of the ICG summary.
> [BA] The ICG proposal includes requirements for agreements. Compared to an actual agreement this is akin to the sound of one hand clapping.
> Due to legal concerns relating to current NTIA-ICANN contract limitations, agreements cannot be signed at this time.  We do not even really know when discussions will be able to resume, what additional concerns might arise when they do, or even whether the requirements can be met once all the obstacles to discussion are removed.

This was of course an issue when the current IETF/ICANN MoU was developed
in 1999/2000, and the reason why it wasn't signed and ratified until
March 2000. Since it *was* signed and ratified and is still in force, I'm
not too worried about the IETF's basic position being "We have what we need."
The issues that Eliot raised are valid and should probably be reinforced
as a comment on the ICG proposal, however.