Re: [Ianaplan] "IANA.ZONE" and other entities and strategies

[Jefsey <[e-mail]>]

At 20:16 24/06/2015, John C Klensin wrote:
>You may find it loud and clear, but, from my perspective, it
>sounds like name-calling using a term I assume your are
>intending to be pejorative but that may not mean the same thing
>to all of us.

You are correct. It does not mean the same to both of us, otherwise 
you would not name "name-calling" what was a friendly reminder about 
a continuous attitude that unfortinately alienates more and more 
people agaisnt the IETF .... and as such is detrimental to all of us.

>I don't think name-calling is ever helpful to a
>discussion, nor, especially in this case, do I think it
>contributes any clarity.
>
>You may or may not like (or agree with) our reasoning or where
>it leads us, but I, and I believe both Brian's response to my
>note, and Russ's quite separate explanation of IETF procedures
>vis-a-vis blocking publication of documents, were intended to be
>calm, constructive, and adult responses to your note.

Well, I am not sure that criticizing something one says one did not 
read fits these qualifications. I was quick, calm, constructive and 
adult. The problem is that most of you have decided I was conflicting 
with you, and ***never*** consider that you might be the ones 
conflicting with your own targets. This is helping you to remind it 
to you. You see the IETF established from inside (RFC 3935). I see it 
distrusted from outside (RFC 6852).

You guys need to accept that the issue is technical: you have 
developped an NSA friendly architecture. The world distrusts you for 
that. They might believe you could correct it. However, when you 
fight those who want to help you understanding it and patch the 
divide, they do not trust you want and can dsign an NSA-neutral 
internet. You kill every hope you might make forget Dual EC DRBG.

>As
>someone who often ends up defending you and your efforts to
>contribute to the Internet, it saddens me that you could not (or
>decided not to) respond in a similar fashion and tone.

I do understand that because it is reciprocal.

I just don't know how to better help the IETF considering that "the 
Tarpeian Rock is close to the Capitol".
The matter is not the IANA in the NTIA transition; it is the 
post-NTIA transition IETFas the SDO of the ICANN RFC 6852 Global Community.

Best
jfc