Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)

Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> Sun, 09 November 2014 05:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)
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The owner of trademark can use it to assert ownership not only of a directly corresponding domain name, but also of similar names. 

However that does not necessarily imply that it is desirable for the IETF Trust to own the IANA trademark. Trademarks (particularly ones involving registrations in multiple countries) can be quite expensive to register and protect. So unless the Trust has examined the costs involved and finds them manageable, it might make more sense to focus on the conditions for transfer to a successor contractor.

> On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:27 PM, manning bill <bmanning@isi.edu> wrote:
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> so you are more worried about the name and not the function?
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>> On 8November2014Saturday, at 17:05, Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:36 PM, manning bill <bmanning@isi.edu> wrote:
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>>> Removal of or rehoming some of the trappings of power (who controls IANA.*) seems like a niche question at best.
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>> [BA] I would agree that our goal should be to ensure that this is a non-issue.
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>> However, I do NOT agree that the issue can be ignored. Trademarks in particular can be very powerful things, and it is quite common for trademark owners to challenge uses that even vaguely resemble the trademark, even in uses that might appear peripheral. 
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>> The responsible thing here is to avoid amateur lawyering and get advice from counsel.
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