Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review

"Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch> Fri, 21 August 2015 15:16 UTC

Return-Path: <rhill@hill-a.ch>
X-Original-To: ianaplan@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ianaplan@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C751AC3A0 for <ianaplan@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:16:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.001
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_64=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nwu4d31ovKBm for <ianaplan@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:16:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp-sh.infomaniak.ch (smtp-sh.infomaniak.ch [128.65.195.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 747331AC39C for <ianaplan@ietf.org>; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:16:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp3.infomaniak.ch (smtp3.infomaniak.ch [84.16.68.91]) by smtp-sh.infomaniak.ch (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7LFG3nM000988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:16:03 +0200
Received: from RHillNew (adsl-178-38-34-52.adslplus.ch [178.38.34.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp3.infomaniak.ch (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7LFG2GO016914; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:16:02 +0200
From: "Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch>
To: "'Leslie Daigle \(ThinkingCat\)'" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
References: <95236452-2600-473E-B326-8AB8242484B4@thinkingcat.com> <018901d0dc22$4efb3870$ecf1a950$@ch> <BAB634F7-2429-4C09-AAAF-96D47C78EB51@thinkingcat.com>
In-Reply-To: <BAB634F7-2429-4C09-AAAF-96D47C78EB51@thinkingcat.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:16:15 +0200
Message-ID: <01a801d0dc24$531bab40$f95301c0$@ch>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
thread-index: AdDcI3KyWYRuB/OJTPSqzcHbGv7aKQAAGilw
Content-Language: en-us
X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Unix mail servers drweb plugin ver.6.0.2.8
X-Antivirus-Code: 0x100000
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ianaplan/_eaSZDChXAllP578nitg34f54Sg>
Cc: "'Ianaplan@Ietf. Org'" <ianaplan@ietf.org>, 'Marc Blanchet' <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
X-BeenThere: ianaplan@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IANA Plan <ianaplan.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ianaplan>, <mailto:ianaplan-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ianaplan/>
List-Post: <mailto:ianaplan@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ianaplan-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan>, <mailto:ianaplan-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:16:08 -0000

Dear Leslie,

Thank you for your clarification. It does not change my position regarding the text that you proposed, because that text refers to the entire ICG proposal.

I would have no objections to a modified text that makes it clear that this group is supporting only its part of the ICG proposal. For example:

“The IETF IANAPLAN working group supports its part of the draft ICG proposal going forward, but does not comment on the other parts of the draft ICG proposal.  However, the IETF raised two transition points that are mentioned in Paragraph 3062 of the proposal.  We would ask that they be referenced in Part 0, Section V of the proposal as well.”

Best,
Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat) [mailto:ldaigle@thinkingcat.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 17:10
> To: Richard Hill
> Cc: Ianaplan@Ietf. Org; Marc Blanchet
> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal
> review
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I appreciate that there is much more that can be said about the overall
> proposal, but please see the note I just sent to the list clarifying
> the context for our remarks, and let us (the WG) know your perspective
> in the light of that context.
> 
> Thanks,
> Leslie.
> 
> --
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Leslie Daigle
> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:01, Richard Hill wrote:
> 
> > Please note that I do not agree with this. I have many objections to
> > the combined ICG proposal, even if not specifically with the
> protocols
> > part of that proposal.
> >
> > So I object to this.
> >
> > Thanks and best,
> > Richard
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Leslie
> >> Daigle (ThinkingCat)
> >> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 16:35
> >> To: Ianaplan@Ietf. Org
> >> Cc: Marc Blanchet
> >> Subject: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal
> >> review
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> As noted in the minutes from today’s IANAPLAN WG virtual interim
> >> meeting, participants agreed on a brief message in support of the
> >> collected ICG proposal.
> >>
> >> While the IAB is preparing a wider response, the proposal is that
> the
> >> IANAPLAN WG will communicate to the ICG the following message
> related
> >> to the IANAPLAN’s work output (part of the IETF contribution):
> >>
> >> “The IETF IANAPLAN working group supports the draft ICG proposal
> >> going forward.  The IETF raised two transition points that are
> >> mentioned in Paragraph 3062 of the proposal.  We would ask that they
> >> be referenced in Part 0, Section V of the proposal as well.”
> >>
> >> This message is to confirm WG consensus on the proposed action via
> >> this e-mail list.  All WG participants are encouraged to review the
> >> meeting minutes for further elaboration of the discussion around
> this
> >> text.
> >> If
> >> you have any disagreement with it, please share your comment to this
> >> list by noon EDT (16h00 UTC) Friday August 28, 2015.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Leslie, for Leslie&Marc.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Leslie Daigle
> >> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
> >> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Ianaplan mailing list
> >> Ianaplan@ietf.org
> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ianaplan mailing list
> > Ianaplan@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan