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Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 08 November 2014 03:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)
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On 08/11/2014 12:28, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> This is getting to be an unproductive line of discussion. 
> No one "stole" the property and the proposals to move it to someone else are also not "expropriation," both were (or would be) part of collectively mediated institutional changes

Indeed, to the best of my knowledge ISI transferred the domain name to
ICANN quite voluntarily as a matter of common sense, when IANA operations
were transferred from ISI to ICANN. The IAB at the time was completely
aware of this and saw no reason to raise an eyebrow, since operating
the IANA server was the visible part of IANA operations, so *obviously*
ICANN became the technical and admin contact for the domain name.

   Brian (IAB Chair at the time)

>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:11 AM, Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch> wrote:
>>>> which is
>>>> what is actually being proposed: they have property, and some are
>>>> proposing that they have to give it to us without compensation.
>>> As others have pointed out, ICANN took it from others without
>> compensation.
>>
>> Could you provide your evidence to back up this accusation of theft?
>>
>> Regards,
>> -drc
>> (ICANN CTO, but speaking only for myself. Really.)
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