Re: [Ianaplan] what *is* IANA?

Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> Fri, 12 September 2014 05:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] what *is* IANA?
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If I give you a car that you are to always drive to X location at the
sametime I also said you may drive the car to Y location (if you wish).
Does it mean that you own the car?

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On 12 Sep 2014 01:31, "Dave Crocker" <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:

> On 9/11/2014 5:27 PM, Seth Johnson wrote:
> >> > The language translates into
> >> >
> >> >      "ICANN provides a set of services through IANA.  (Only) some of
> >> > those serves are for the IETF."
> > Or:
> >
> >     "ICANN may provide services similar to those IANA provides.  ICANN
> > may do so through IANA for protocols not within IETF's scope."
>
>
> This continues to miss the point.
>
> The touchstone to reality is that an IETF decision to re-home the IETF's
> IANA functions would be unlikely to be able to take the IANA domain
> name.  It's a touchstone because it is an indication that IANA is now
> publicly perceived as an ICANN function and ICANN's IANA functions
> /already/ include more than the IETF functions.
>
> So we might take our assignment marbles and go somewhere else, but it
> won't be called IANA.  Or, at least, there will still be an IANA at ICANN.
>
> d/
>
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> Dave Crocker
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