Re: [Ianaplan] Process concern regarding the IETF proposal development process

Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> Mon, 26 January 2015 17:02 UTC

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Bernard Aboba wrote:
> Here are some of the documents that relate to the IAOC/IETF Trust:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4071

Which states:
"Responsibility for the evaluation, review, and negotiation of contracts 
and other IETF administrative and support agreements and other 
expenditures of funds under the IASA shall rest with the IAD, operating 
in accordance with policies and procedures set by the IAOC and 
consistent with ISOC operating policies."
and
"The IAOC decides the details about its decision-making rules, including 
its rules for quorum, conflict of interest, and breaking of ties. These 
rules shall be made public."

So.. where are those rules, and, as Richard asks separately, "How will 
the global multi-stakeholder community be able to influence those 
decisions?"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4371
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6220
>


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