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Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 07 November 2014 22:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)
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Hi,

On 11/7/14, 2:00 PM, Peterson, Jon wrote:
> I get that you believe ICANN shouldn't own iana.org and that someone else
> should, but you're barking up the wrong tree when you nominate us for the
> job. Ownership of the iana.org domain doesn't matter very much to the
> IETF. We don't need to own it to use IANA, given that we don't own it and
> we use IANA today. If for some reason we couldn't continue to use IANA the
> way we do today (and I'm only talking about the protocol parameters here),
> we as the IETF would just do something else for protocol parameters that
> would serve our needs as an organization.

If you believe that the IAOC is in fact to resolve our requirements into
solutions and if we conclude that there is a requirement for backward
compatibility, then arguing that IANA.ORG MUST NOT be transferred is as
invalid as arguing that it MUST.

Eliot

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