Re: [Ianaplan] Process concern regarding the IETF proposal development process

"Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch> Mon, 26 January 2015 19:38 UTC

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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, ianaplan@ietf.org
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:38:06 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Process concern regarding the IETF proposal development process
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Brian E
> Carpenter
> Sent: lundi, 26. janvier 2015 20:36
> To: ianaplan@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Process concern regarding the IETF proposal
> development process
>
>
> On 27/01/2015 05:12, Richard Hill wrote:
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Unless I misunderstand, according to 3.4 of RFC 4017, IAOC
> decisions are made by IAOC members. How will the global
> > multi-stakeholder community te able to influence those decisions?
>
> That's irrelevant. The IAOC and IETF Trust are responsible to the IETF,
> not to the global multi-stakeholder community.

That's my point.
>
> And to say it all one more time: IF and ONLY IF new contractual and
> intellectual property arrangements become necessary, THEN the IAOC and
> the IETF Trust are the IETF's bodies for dealing with them. And the
> WG preference was very clearly to cross that bridge ONLY IF we come to
> it. Our stated preference is to continue the present arrangements that
> we signed up to in March 2000, which means there would be nothing new
> for the IAOC and IETF Trust to do. Why is that hard to understand?

Nothing, it is all clear. Decisions will be made by the IAOC and the IETF
Trust, not by the global multi-stakeholder community.  That's not what the
NTIA requested.

>
> The next WG milestone reads
> "May 2015 review of other transition proposals, if needed."
> That's the same "if". I'll see you then.
>
>    Brian
>
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