Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)

[Jefsey <[e-mail]>]

At 13:32 06/11/2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>Perhaps  silly observation, but I should think that someone 
>associated with a registrar would well understand the importance of 
>the contracts and other agreements that govern the registration of 
>domains, control of information, resolution of conflicts (e.g., the 
>UDRP) - and the need for a level of specificity and "actionability" 
>in governance related documents.

Miles,

The matter is not so much how we understand the context, but the way 
we think it is interesting to manage it for each of us. People 
associated with registrars have not the same point of view as those 
associated with registries, and customers of registrars, or those 
wanting to best use the IETF technology and are not really interested 
in registrars and even registries.

The difficulty with this WG is that it associates the cultures of 
people with sometimes converging, sometimes opposing interests. The 
way it is conducted is to try to obtain an ill defined single 
status-quo solution with one single incumbent in a totally changing 
and expanding context does not help. This is an impossible task, as 
the more the context changes, the more newentrants join the game and 
the more there are feed-backs on incumbents. These should be facts: 
as engineers we should be able to modelize and run simulations. But 
we miss two third of the rules: the political and the legal ones.

As a result, this is only discussed by personal views and beliefs 
based on personal cultural feelings. This is emotional engineering.

We are engaged a global solution network process (as per Lynn 
St-Amour and Don Tapscott and their Google, State Department, Royal 
Bank of Canada, MasterCard, Qualcomm, etc. sponsors). Why not to ask 
their Accenture sponsor to contract with the IETF in order to write this draft?

IMHO everyone in this WG is used by every other one. Does not 
simplify the consensus building process.

jfc