Re: [Ianaplan] PTI or not [was ICG request concerning IANA trademark and iana.org domain name]

"Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch> Sun, 21 June 2015 19:32 UTC

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From: Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] PTI or not [was ICG request concerning IANA trademark and iana.org domain name]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eliot
> Lear
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 09:05
> To: Brian E Carpenter; John C Klensin; Marc Blanchet
> Cc: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond; ianaplan@ietf.org; dcrocker@bbiw.net
> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] PTI or not [was ICG request concerning IANA
> trademark and iana.org domain name]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 6/21/15 6:26 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> > On 21/06/2015 15:54, John C Klensin wrote:
> >

SNIP

> >  How does making PTI separately accountable fix that?
> 
> The names community wants the same ability we have- to change IFOs when
> the function is not being performed to their satisfaction.

But, as far as I can tell, the current PTI proposal does not achieve that objective.

SNIP

> One doesn't start by burning the neighbor's house down when one has a
> different perspective.  One starts by finding a means to resolve
> difference through a conversation by the fence or over a cup'a, which
> should hopefully be happening this next week.

Indeed. And I don't see why the names community should object to transferring the trademark and domain name to the IETF trust, which is what this group requested and what the addressing group agreed to.

> 
> Eliot