Re: [Ianaplan] on considering consensus

Brian E Carpenter <> Tue, 25 August 2015 05:42 UTC

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:42:08 +1200
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On 25/08/2015 17:25, Eliot Lear wrote:
> Hi Leslie & Marc,
> I realize I'm being a bit of a pain on this one and I am sorry this
> weights on you two, but...  I have two concerns about the text that you
> put out as a proposed edit:
> 1.  The first is that apart from saying that some haven't read the
> proposal, Richard hasn't actually raised a substantial objection that we
> can discuss.  Richard also raised a process issue that I believe Andrew
> dispensed with.
> 2.  While we do confirm consensus in mailing lists, I would just ask
> that you not forget the 15 or so people who took the time to participate
> in the interim meeting and worked to come to unanimous agreement on the
> previous text.
> As such, I would ask that we revert to the text agreed to by the interim.

We have this rule that rough consensus is established on the list.

And I would say the problem with the meeting text is that journalists
will spin it to say that the IETF agrees with the whole plan. I don't think
we have any evidence of that.