Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response moving to next step
Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu> Fri, 28 November 2014 16:41 UTC
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From: Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu>
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“However in the absence of the NTIA contract a few new arrangements may be needed in order to ensure the IETF community's expectations are met.” Weak, admittedly, but it’s there. From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hill Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 11:30 AM To: Milton L Mueller; John Curran Cc: Marc Blanchet; Jari Arkko; ianaplan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response moving to next step What language in the draft "indicate(s) that changes do need to be made post-NTIA"? Best Richard Sent from Samsung Mobile. -------- Original message -------- From: Milton L Mueller Date:28/11/2014 17:23 (GMT+01:00) To: John Curran , rhill@hill-a.ch<mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch> Cc: Marc Blanchet , Jari Arkko , ianaplan@ietf.org<mailto:ianaplan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response moving to next step > -----Original Message----- > The draft does > doesn't preclude stronger legal/contractual measures, but it also does not > note such as a specific requirement for future IANA arrangements. This is my understanding, too. The fact that the draft doesn't preclude these measures and has been modified to indicate that changes do need to be made post-NTIA is what ultimately makes the draft (roughly) acceptable to me. > Adding stronger legal/contractual arrangements as a requirement was > discussed at length, and it was apparent that accommodating that change in > the document would actually reduce the level of consensus Without commenting on the validity or lack thereof of the arguments against more specific legal/contractual requirements, I think this also accurately reflects the situation. Milton L Mueller Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor Syracuse University School of Information Studies http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/ Internet Governance Project http://internetgovernance.org _______________________________________________ Ianaplan mailing list Ianaplan@ietf.org<mailto:Ianaplan@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan
- [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response movin… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response m… Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response m… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response m… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response m… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [Ianaplan] draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response m… Milton L Mueller
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