Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG
Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 25 September 2015 13:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG
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Hi Russ, I agree, but I also see a bit of confusion in the question that is being asked with regard to "operator" and "operational communities". While different functions operators may be required in the future, the policies governing a given IANA function do not change simply because the operator changes. Wisdom and operational experience have guided us toward collaboration across the various communities with regard to these policies thus far, and will continue to do so in the future. Eliot On 9/25/15 12:26 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > I think that we should respond with a very simple confirmation that we > plan to continue to coordinate with the other operational communities, > but that we do not think that formal processes are necessary to do so. > This is consistent with the comments that were sent by the IAB to the > ICG. > See https://www.iab.org/documents/correspondence-reports-documents/2015-2/iab-comments-on-icg-proposal/. > > > Russ > > > On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > >> Dear IANAPLAN WG, >> >> Based on comments received during the ICG’s public comment period, >> the ICG has a question for the protocol parameters community. We are >> requesting a response to this question ideally by 7 October at 23:59 >> UTC (prior to the ICG’s final call before ICANN 54 on October 8), or >> by 14 October at 23:59 UTC if the protocol parameters community >> requires more time. We realize this is an aggressive timetable, so >> please keep us informed if you feel you need further time. >> >> The ICG would like to state explicitly that we do not expect a >> further ICG public comment period to be necessary on the combined >> proposal in response to the answers that the protocol parameters >> community may provide. While the ICG reserves the right to seek >> further public comment if we receive extensive amendments from any of >> the operational communities, we do not expect to do so at this time. >> >> The three operational communities have a long history of cooperation >> as needed to help ensure the smooth functioning of the DNS and the >> Internet. A number of comments were concerned that the three IANA >> functions could end up being carried out by different operators and >> suggested that there was a need for some information exchange and >> coordination between the operational communities to ensure a proper >> understanding of the impact a change might have on the operation of >> the other functions (perhaps because of interdependencies between the >> functions or because of shared resources or key staff). This >> information exchange might also help in coordinating action in the >> case of remedying operational difficulties. For this to work, the >> three operational communities need to commit to coordinating and >> cooperating as necessary when changing operator, whether by >> leveraging existing coordination mechanisms or new ones. Can the >> protocol parameters operational community provide such a commitment? >> If so, the ICG intends to reflect that and the commitments of the >> other communities in Part 0 of the transition proposal. >> >> Please let us know if the question requires clarification. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alissa Cooper on behalf of the ICG >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ianaplan mailing list > Ianaplan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan
- [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG John Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG John C Klensin
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Dave Crocker
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Jefsey
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Dave Crocker
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Dan Schlitt
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Dave Crocker
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Dave Crocker
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Geoff Huston
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Jefsey
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG John Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG John Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Jefsey
- [Ianaplan] Fwd: [NRO-IANAXFER] Question from the … Alissa Cooper
- [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG John Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Leslie Daigle
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG Jari Arkko