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Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review

"Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch> Tue, 25 August 2015 06:43 UTC

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From: Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
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>From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eliot Lear
>Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 08:31
>To: Richard Hill; 'Brian E Carpenter'; 'Stephen Farrell'; 'Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)'; 'Ianaplan@Ietf. Org'
>Cc: 'Marc Blanchet'
>Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
>
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>>On 8/25/15 8:23 AM, Richard Hill wrote:
>>If the matter is of no concern to the IETF, then why should the IETF comment at all?
>
>I didn't say it is of no concern to the IETF.  Clearly that's not true because we spun up >this huge effort in the first place.  

Yes, for the protocol parameters. But I haven't seen any discussion on this list regarding the other functions, nor on ICANN accountability.

SNIP

>Not supporting the process going forward would imply that something perverse has
> happened along the way to such an extent that we should reverse our position,

No. This group is consistent: it supports the protocols part of the ICG proposal because that part is exactly what this group agreed by rough consensus, and it request that the bit in paragraph 3062 be referenced also elsewhere.

This group has not discussed the other parts of the ICG proposal, so there is no reason why this group should take a position regarding those parts of the proposal.

> in which case I would like that called out.

Does the above help?

>Eliot

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