Re: [Iasa20] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS)

[Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>]

Change was posted in the new -09

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 03:42 Magnus Westerlund <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am also fine with just saying IRTF. Will clear my discuss when
> incorporated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Magnus
>
> On 2019-04-10 17:39, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
>
> +1, sounds good
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:47 AM Leslie Daigle <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed with the point about “IRSG”. The IRTF Steering Group is appointed
>> and functions differently than the IAB or IESG. I believe it is intended to
>> “advise” the IRTF Chair.
>>
>> So, I think the new text s/IRSG/IRTF/ is fine.
>>
>> Leslie.
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Leslie Daigle
>> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
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>>
>> On 10 Apr 2019, at 9:53, Magnus Westerlund wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-04-10 13:55, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
>>
>>
>> To boil this down to text, would this be sufficient in your view, Magnus?:
>>
>> OLD
>>
>> The IETF LLC Board is directly accountable to the IETF community for
>>    the performance of the IASA 2.0.  However, the nature of the Board's
>>    work involves treating the IESG and IAB as major internal customers
>>    of the administrative support services.  The Board and the IETF
>>    Executive Director should not consider their work successful unless
>>    the IESG and IAB are also satisfied with the administrative support
>>    that the IETF is receiving.
>>
>> NEW
>>
>> The IETF LLC Board is directly accountable to the IETF community for
>>    the performance of the IASA 2.0.  However, the nature of the Board's
>>    work involves treating the IESG, IRSG, and IAB as major internal
>> customers
>>    of the administrative support services.  The Board and the IETF
>>    Executive Director should not consider their work successful unless
>>    the IESG, IRSG, and IAB are also satisfied with the administrative
>> support
>>    that the IETF is receiving.
>>
>>
>> On the high level principle this would be fine. However, it makes me ask
>> the first question if IRSG is the right entity. It likely are, but I lack
>> the insight into IRTF management to say that. Secondly, this will be the
>> first mention of the IRSG in the document. So some introduction or at least
>> reference appears to be needed.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Magnus Westerlund
>>
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