Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 29 April 2019 17:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis
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Your comment at the end about further discussion goes directly to the issue of scope. People have joined this list for specific purposes. That purp[ose does not include policy changes. Much less policy changes regarding the RSE. So no, I do not see how discussion on this list takes care of the need for discussion elsewhere after we know what the IAB actually wants to do. It was specifically brought forward, and has been defended by some participants on this list, as being a minor procedural matter. While small, it does have significant implications. As such, it is not a procedural matter. ---- If this is the correct place for discussion, then I would have expected to see meaningful answers to the substantive concerns about this proposal. Yours, Joel On 4/29/19 12:27 PM, Ted Hardie wrote: > Howdy, > > (much snipped) > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:30 AM Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in > <mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> wrote: > > > My point is that while there will not be a WG consensus call on this > document, I think it is helpful to have this group discuss the > document since the expertise is here and the document’s whole reason > for being is the same as this WG’s reason for being. > > As I noted in my prior mail, I thought the plan for this doc and the > other IAB stream bis documents was to discuss them here prior to the > IAB running its usual call for community comment for IAB stream > documents. This is my understanding from talking to Ted. > > > This is also my understanding. Any discussion that happens here is > useful in getting community issues in focus early, so that those are > clear when the IAB does its review and interprets comments that come in > during the community review period. > > As an individual, I appreciated Sean bringing the issue up here, because > it seemed useful to have the discussion in a larger setting before the > IAB review. I believe we will not need to repeat this discussion again > when the community review occurs, as the document should reflect the > results of the discussion by the time it goes to the IAB. > > regards > > Ted > > > > > _______________________________________________ > iasa20 mailing list > iasa20@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iasa20 >
- [Iasa20] 6635bis Sean Turner
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Richard Barnes
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Mike Bishop
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Ted Hardie
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Martin Thomson
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Christian Huitema
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Russ Housley
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Richard Barnes
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John R Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John R Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John C Klensin
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis S Moonesamy
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Salz, Rich
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Richard Barnes
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John C Klensin
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Ted Hardie
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Richard Barnes
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Richard Barnes
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis John C Klensin
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Ted Hardie
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Sean Turner
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis - RPC contracting Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Richard Barnes
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Richard Barnes
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis John Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis John R Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis John R Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Sarah B
- Re: [Iasa20] employees and contractors in 6635bis Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Ted Hardie
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis Alissa Cooper