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Re: [Iasa20] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS)

Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Wed, 10 April 2019 15:38 UTC

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:38:30 -0400
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To: Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
Cc: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis@ietf.org, Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>, IASA 2 WG <iasa20@ietf.org>, iasa2-chairs@ietf.org, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS)
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+1, sounds good

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:47 AM Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
wrote:

> Agreed with the point about “IRSG”. The IRTF Steering Group is appointed
> and functions differently than the IAB or IESG. I believe it is intended to
> “advise” the IRTF Chair.
>
> So, I think the new text s/IRSG/IRTF/ is fine.
>
> Leslie.
>
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> Leslie Daigle
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> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
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> On 10 Apr 2019, at 9:53, Magnus Westerlund wrote:
>
> On 2019-04-10 13:55, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
>
>
> To boil this down to text, would this be sufficient in your view, Magnus?:
>
> OLD
>
> The IETF LLC Board is directly accountable to the IETF community for
>    the performance of the IASA 2.0.  However, the nature of the Board's
>    work involves treating the IESG and IAB as major internal customers
>    of the administrative support services.  The Board and the IETF
>    Executive Director should not consider their work successful unless
>    the IESG and IAB are also satisfied with the administrative support
>    that the IETF is receiving.
>
> NEW
>
> The IETF LLC Board is directly accountable to the IETF community for
>    the performance of the IASA 2.0.  However, the nature of the Board's
>    work involves treating the IESG, IRSG, and IAB as major internal
> customers
>    of the administrative support services.  The Board and the IETF
>    Executive Director should not consider their work successful unless
>    the IESG, IRSG, and IAB are also satisfied with the administrative
> support
>    that the IETF is receiving.
>
>
> On the high level principle this would be fine. However, it makes me ask
> the first question if IRSG is the right entity. It likely are, but I lack
> the insight into IRTF management to say that. Secondly, this will be the
> first mention of the IRSG in the document. So some introduction or at least
> reference appears to be needed.
>
> Cheers
>
> Magnus Westerlund
>
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