Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Barry Leiba <> Tue, 25 June 2019 07:32 UTC

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:32:43 +0100
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Thanks, John, for adding to the discussion.  One thing:

> > — Section 4.14 —
> >
> >    Members of the IETF community must have attended at least
> > three of    the last five IETF meetings in order to volunteer.
> >
> > I hesitate to say this, given other ongoing discussions, but
> > "attended at least three of the last five IETF meetings in
> > person in order to volunteer" has to be clear here,
> > especially as we now have formal registration for remote
> > participants.
> (2) The hesitation is, IMO, appropriate.  Changes and
> clarifications to the procedures that are unrelated to IASA 2.0,
> especially substantive ones (which that is) are either out of
> scope or they are not.   If they are not in scope, then the IESG
> making a change that the WG was not allowed to make seems highly
> inappropriate.

I don't think what I'm suggesting is a change, but a clarification.
The intent of the current three-of-five policy is in-person
attendance, and there was no need to say that when that was the only
way to attend.  While I fully think that we should change that and
include remote participants for eligibility, this document is
addressing the current rules, which don't include them.

I strongly hope that we change that soon.  But I do think it's
important to get this document out there now, to finish the necessary
IASA2 documentation.