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Re: [Iasa20] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-09: (with COMMENT)

Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Thu, 11 April 2019 17:42 UTC

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:42:24 -0400
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To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
Cc: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, IASA 2 WG <iasa20@ietf.org>, IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-09: (with COMMENT)
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 1:37 PM Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:

>
>
> > On Apr 11, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:25:00AM -0700, Ted Hardie wrote:
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:48 AM Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:05 AM Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Section 7.7
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   The IETF LLC exists to support the IETF, IAB, and IRTF.  Therefore,
> >>>>>   the IETF LLC's funding and all revenues, in-kind contributions, and
> >>>>>   other income that comprise that funding shall be used solely to
> >>>>>   support activities related to the IETF, IAB, IRTF, and RFC Editor,
> >>>>>   and for no other purposes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why are the lists in the first and second sentences different?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Because the RFC Editor is contracted through the IAB, but that
> somewhere
> >>>> in the WG discussion it felt important to call out in the second
> list. I
> >>>> don't think we can just add the RFC Editor to the first list... but we
> >>>> could do something like this: "The IETF LLC exists to support the
> IETF,
> >>>> IRTF, and IAB (through which the RFC Editor receives support)."
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Mirja pointed out correctly that the RFC Editor is contracted by the
> LLC,
> >>> so I am wrong here. best, Joe
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's a bit more complicated than that, but since we are creating a
> 6635bis,
> >> maybe leave this topic to the that?
> >
> > To be clear, I'm not insisting on a change here, and just wondered if the
> > lists were supposed to be synchronized (or not).
>
> As noted in the other thread, the RFC Editor is mentioned in places
> related to the budget/finances because (I think) the WG wanted it written
> down that the LLC budget would account for the expense associated with the
> RFC Editor.
>

Yes, I believe the right WG discussion to point to is Alissa's AD review
and that thread here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/iasa20/JIfO6c1_RwOaBOQRfgsu3Aj2OwM

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