IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Iasa20] Ballot positions on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Mon, 08 July 2019 15:16 UTC

Return-Path: <alissa@cooperw.in>
X-Original-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24627120242; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 08:16:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.7
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cooperw.in header.b=rXuFb/Tf; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=tHdkwkPV
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kJcRR050k5yG; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 08:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F6412025F; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FB2628; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 11:15:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 08 Jul 2019 11:15:58 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=fm3; bh=p Jqw7fwa+v8jt/RHFCTxwOMBfUMch0QZmqOxVOiBmdc=; b=rXuFb/Tf+KBPQYWH/ mN/AAa7MVjFkktDXguCF/LXiiwDS/koFqjvi6Xwx1kJ9yQAy+rd/chTobfsLUcKa wmFVhDBvZE365eOXquQwbWoE/Wlr8Wso5RZ3CVLamuU6rTyVO4nqifUEGAd+a3Qg TrBaCf543OaVMJSC15nnUWb9VcMPvD1EkTUEPCtD4JLbj2xoxuUYrFrU5Pg9bKGV X9PBqAp2YV+K6wK/niFF+M0tA/UJt2xqydi/phsn5LOZhuP8ZFC3nlheiCdHb3wk P2iDxVHHKn2qlZkvcHXoxz8zuwDieHOilFdv/ic9yKuCyq/OgDu7NbbAd+Cm2rTc Q0NxQ==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=pJqw7fwa+v8jt/RHFCTxwOMBfUMch0QZmqOxVOiBm dc=; b=tHdkwkPV8jfKm4zwTpkrrUF4imrBJx4AiGU+tn2XY9Wmw6csKPR21/H6j K1niWhMsWsXgtNp2KNeF7p+NoIDgy7QWJnWhSUflKaQFEJhOtBEBjNYKY/EWOtaF 8H0NfTbkHUtGEtFwr1N08kLg33QGCJXWOzDduz2TUcmtsCJdzheKjLPbdEm5l80z nk3BIfaaE32IuvG/E4Bta7CJIppoUl3LlsToBalTus1nRORY+jXxzTs68c1LQ/4v kSQ8qQsIliOdkOTrenv0UBL6JQaKfJvy6NUjzqqJcgSdx4fZvD5RRNFyRYAI4fXX 3ZjcEvLgxhYZhjRqPHP6WZ+/rl4Ag==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:LV4jXXkNw7zs86V_O_XC-IKOC9v_4u7ZDtlS5ooD65OXpaQ7U7o7tw>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddrgedtgdekkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpegtggfuhfgjfffgkfhfvffosehtqhhmtdhhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhhishhs rgcuvehoohhpvghruceorghlihhsshgrsegtohhophgvrhifrdhinheqnecukfhppeduje efrdefkedruddujedrjeegnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegrlhhishhsrges tghoohhpvghrfidrihhnnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:LV4jXW4jsvOaoxE9tJP_SO0NglfJNxcDbKXGZihYeD4ycGblIgxJmA> <xmx:LV4jXY_fhDVJHOfsVfg2aAoVY817v3_uMhapmlDI78ZRL-WcRr17Gw> <xmx:LV4jXegGrkhh9TUuRoHcNxJjQjk2gHaxeqAqkM1M4dQIGTRtQjf7hQ> <xmx:LV4jXVc-pn9nepgRR-t13Kr6YIaZXTjdpSV8vfwqcqlk98nGV_hgcQ>
Received: from rtp-alcoop-nitro2.cisco.com (unknown [173.38.117.74]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A4FB480069; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 11:15:56 -0400 (EDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\))
From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
In-Reply-To: <CALaySJ+eVjbrfFkO1B0ZoGLOyWDwBT2O7Ap4ktt9rH3+U8XAkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 11:15:55 -0400
Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, IASA 2 WG <iasa20@ietf.org>, IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <9E108E51-E100-4E42-9203-8C1213CB58A1@cooperw.in>
References: <AC12184D-B315-43B9-8691-EF0F7D901199@cooperw.in> <98cf5edb-29a4-57b0-4e0f-206b6b9c1e5d@gmail.com> <FB091C9A-80C2-440C-964F-D89E7F55F67A@gmail.com> <8fd54995-8f5a-0efb-4d94-c363ea81b286@cs.tcd.ie> <CAHw9_iLDNBp08b=iTZadncvixkoEw-pazmD8B8xW8itzrPFvqQ@mail.gmail.com> <2962D9D5-314D-4E4F-A619-49948D01D3E9@gmail.com> <CALaySJ+eVjbrfFkO1B0ZoGLOyWDwBT2O7Ap4ktt9rH3+U8XAkQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/iasa20/K0WTpvX-vsJW6XBabe7KBGhsOdA>
Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Ballot positions on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis
X-BeenThere: iasa20@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussions relating to reorganising the IETF administrative structures in the so called “IASA 2.0” project. <iasa20.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/iasa20>, <mailto:iasa20-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/iasa20/>
List-Post: <mailto:iasa20@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:iasa20-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iasa20>, <mailto:iasa20-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 15:16:11 -0000

Hi Barry,

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
> 
>> Doesn’t it count for something that this document was approved by an earlier IESG in 2014?
> 
> You're being disingenuous.  THIS document was never put before the
> IESG before.  The draft that became RFC 7437 was, but that was a
> different document.
> 
> Today, we're being asked to review draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis, not
> draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis.
> 
> Now, first, it would have been nice to have been alerted that a
> thorough editorial review was not welcome *before* the document was
> put on the telechat agenda and a ballot was opened.  I spent a few
> hours working on it and being thorough, and would liked to have not
> wasted my time on things that will be ignored.

Sorry, this was my bad. When I see process bis docs on the telechat agenda I tend to focus on the changes visible in the diff, but I shouldn’t assume everyone does that.

Alissa

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email