Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Tue, 09 April 2019 17:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on
draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> Once again we are falling into the chronic IETF trap of obsessing > about process corner cases. We're not obsessing, and I don't see them as corner cases. > This document says that the IESG will > probably appoint the Chair to the LLC board, but if the chair doesn't > want to do it they can appoint someone else. It says neither of those; it certainly makes no statement about what the IETF Chair does or doesn't want. It says it's at the IESG's discretion. For this year, the IETF Chair made no assumption, and asked the IESG what we wanted to do. We decided that for this year, continuity with the transition board and the fact that there's a bunch of startup stuff to do, such as hiring an Executive Director, made it particularly important to appoint the IETF Chair this time. At least some of us want to reconsider that next time, when the situation is different. So, no, not a corner case. > I would leave the language alone, and if it turns out there's an > *actual* problem we haven't anticipated, we can fix it. We have an opportunity to spend a small amount of time NOW to get the language clear and make it less likely to need fixing in the future. I think we would be derelict if we didn't take it. Barry
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