Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

[Russ Housley <[e-mail]>]

> On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:01 PM, Ted Hardie <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:51 AM Russ Housley <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
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>> Speaking personally, I believe consideration to this point was given.  See the threads leading up to Jason's message with the title "Consensus on Director Sources and Number"  August 1, 2018.
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> I agree that this was discussed, but I can see that a one-year term for the IESG appointment would work better with the way that the IESG assigns various people to jobs.  That gets revisited every March.  So, if we really want the IESG to be able to pick someone other than the IETF Chair, the one-year term does seem to be a better fit.
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> But shifting that often would be terrible for the Board.  As it stands, there's a lot of context in all of this and that amount of transition is just bad for forward progress.  Since this appointee has to act on behalf of the whole organization (as all board members do), having them have less context than the other members is already bad; shifting to one year would make it potentially much worse.  I think that would make this much closer to a liaison role, with all the issues that entails.
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> I believe Barry's DISCUSS was "was this choice made deliberately?" and the answer to that is clear: yes.  We could take this as a signal to re-litigate it, but that is not the point of the IESG review and would not be an appropriate reaction to this DISCUSS.  That would, in fact, shift it over the line in the DISCUSS criteria document to DISCUSS non-criteria:
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> Disagreement with informed WG decisions that do not exhibit problems outlined in Section 3.1 (DISCUSS Criteria) <https://www.ietf.org/blog/discuss-criteria-iesg-review/#stand-disc>. In other words, disagreement in preferences among technically sound approaches.

Yes, I agree that the length of the term was discussed.  I do no recall this aspect being discussed.

At least one board seat will change every year.  If the two-year term stands, then only half of the IESG can be considered for the seat, and that would be the people that have the same IESG term as the IETF Chair.  The other half cannot be sure that they will still be on the IESG for a full two years.

Russ