Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 09 January 2019 23:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis
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On 2019-01-10 11:17, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:49 PM Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe I missed some discussion, but this:
>>
>>> This document obsoletes [RFC4071] (BCP101), [RFC4333], and [RFC7691].
>>
>> is very unusual by including "(BCP101)".
>>
>> BCP101 is currently a set of three RFCs: RFC4071, RFC4371, and RFC7691.
>> This draft obsoletes only two of those. So it cannot claim to obsolete
>> BCP101 as a whole.
>>
>> As already noted, draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-02 claims to update
>> RFC4071 (which makes no sense since 4071bis obsoletes it) and RFC4371
>> (without obsoleting it).
>>
>> The fix for this is fiddly but trivial:
>>
>> 1. 4071bis should not claim to obsolete BCP101.
>> 2. trust-update should not claim to update RFC4071.
>> 3. trust-update should include a short text extract from RFC4371**.
>> 4. trust-update should obsolete RFC4371.
>> 5. 4071bis will be designated as BCP101 when published.
>>
> 
> Brian, if you know the answer or have an opinion: Should we put something
> in the document to the RFC Editor to specify this?

My *belief* is that this will happen automatically, but to be on the safe
side the AD can attach a note to the RFC Editor when the IESG approval
is sent out.

>> 6. trust-update will be designated as BCPxxx when published.

Same there - a note clarifying that this is now a separate BCP from 101
might be in order, if people agree with that.

   Brian

>>
>> ** See
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/iasa20/uQZsZiarA8u1lVWyOCQr-L6Pvfo
>>
>> Regards
>>    Brian Carpenter
>>
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