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Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Wed, 10 April 2019 12:00 UTC

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 07:59:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:23 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> > This is not correct. As Joe pointed out, any director can be removed via
> the IETF recall process.
>
> I don't think so. Agreed, the draft says:
>
> >    Directors may also be removed via the
> >    IETF recall process defined in [I-D.ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis],
> >    Section 7.
>
> But that Section 7 says:
>
> >    The following rules apply to the recall process.  If necessary, a
> >    paragraph discussing the interpretation of each rule is included.
> >
> >    It applies to IESG and IAB Members, the NomCom appointed IETF Trust
> >    Trustees, and the NomCom appointed IETF LLC Directors.
>
> That *does not* include the IESG-appointed LLC Director, even
> if they are an IESG member.
>
> If that's a drafting error in 7437bis, my point would be
> satisfied by fixing it.
>

Yes, I was certainly operating with the understanding that the
IESG-appointed LLC Board member could be recalled. It looks like that
document would need to be changed in a few more places to make sure IETF
recall applied to an IESG-appointed LLC Board member.

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