Re: [Iasa20] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-09: (with COMMENT)
Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Thu, 11 April 2019 18:26 UTC
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:26:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on
draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-09: (with COMMENT)
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 2:08 PM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 11, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 14:00 Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 11 Apr 2019, at 13:54, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote: >> >> I'd really rather not, but that's just author-clingy-ness and an aversion >> to big changes in text. One proposal would be just eliminate everything but >> the first paragraph of the Abstract (I think all of that is repeated at >> greater length in the intro). >> >> >> Actually, I think you’re fine if you drop everything but the LAST >> paragraph. That paragraph very succinctly states what the document is. >> Also keep the last sentence about obsoleting RFC 4071. >> > > Thank you. Would love to hear from others. > > > I think a blend of the first and last paragraphs is best. There is > overlap between them already: > > Abstract > > The IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA) was originally > established in 2005. In the years since then, the needs of the IETF > evolved in ways that required changes to its administrative > structure. The purpose of this document is to document and describe > the IETF Administrative Support Activity, version 2 (IASA 2.0). It > defines the roles and responsibilities of the IETF Administrative > LLC Board, the IETF Executive Director, and the Internet Society in > the fiscal and administrative support of the IETF standards process. > It also defines the membership and selection rules for the IETF > Administrative LLC Board. > > This document obsoletes RFC 4071, RFC 4333, and RFC 7691. > > > Russ > > Works for me. Will make this change in the working document shortly. Thanks to everyone for being so responsive. best, Joe
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