Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

[Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 9:43 AM Barry Leiba <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> > Did the WG analyze every possible ramification? No. But as far as I'm
> > concerned this was a conscious choice that obtained WG consensus.
>
> Of course the WG didn't and couldn't analyze *every* possibility;
> please don't try to pull my concern into appearing ridiculous.
>
> What I see -- and, so far, no comments have shown otherwise -- is that
> the term period was well considered, but, in general, the effect that
> that period has on the ability of the IESG to actually have a
> meaningful choice in whom we select... was not.  It *appears* to me
> that the alternatives for the IESG were included grudgingly, where at
> least a few people just wanted it to be the IETF Chair ex officio, and
> that's it.  My issue here is that if we're given a choice it has to be
> a real choice, not a Hobson's choice.
>

I still don't get the concern here, Barry, apologies. Is the sole concern
that if an AD is not on the same cycle as the Chair then the IESG may be
constrained in picking that person? I don't think that's the case; even if
that person cycles out of the AD role they can still serve as the
IESG-appointed member. It would be less of an effective liaison with IESG
since that person would not be deep in the mix for that last year. Do we
need to specify that this IESG-appointed LLC director must be in cycle with
the chair (since the text says this is a two-year appointment and having
someone not on IESG for their last year doesn't seem ideal). best, Joe

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