Re: [Iasa20] 6635bis

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sat, 27 April 2019 20:49 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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>    I don't think it's a change in policy and I think we're making a classic 
    IETF overspecification mistake not to let the LLC run its own business.
  
I agree.  This is not like specifying bits on the wire. :)