Re: [Iasa20] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS)

"Leslie Daigle" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com> Wed, 10 April 2019 14:47 UTC

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From: "Leslie Daigle" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
To: "Magnus Westerlund" <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
Cc: "Joseph Lorenzo Hall" <joe@cdt.org>, "Ted Hardie" <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis@ietf.org, "Jon Peterson" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>, "IASA 2 WG" <iasa20@ietf.org>, iasa2-chairs@ietf.org, "The IESG" <iesg@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:46:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS)
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Agreed with the point about “IRSG”.  The IRTF Steering Group is 
appointed and functions differently than the IAB or IESG.  I believe it 
is intended to “advise” the IRTF Chair.

So, I think the new text s/IRSG/IRTF/ is fine.

Leslie.

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On 10 Apr 2019, at 9:53, Magnus Westerlund wrote:

> On 2019-04-10 13:55, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
>
> To boil this down to text, would this be sufficient in your view, 
> Magnus?:
>
> OLD
>
> The IETF LLC Board is directly accountable to the IETF community for
>    the performance of the IASA 2.0.  However, the nature of the 
> Board's
>    work involves treating the IESG and IAB as major internal customers
>    of the administrative support services.  The Board and the IETF
>    Executive Director should not consider their work successful unless
>    the IESG and IAB are also satisfied with the administrative support
>    that the IETF is receiving.
>
> NEW
>
> The IETF LLC Board is directly accountable to the IETF community for
>    the performance of the IASA 2.0.  However, the nature of the 
> Board's
>    work involves treating the IESG, IRSG, and IAB as major internal 
> customers
>    of the administrative support services.  The Board and the IETF
>    Executive Director should not consider their work successful unless
>    the IESG, IRSG, and IAB are also satisfied with the administrative 
> support
>    that the IETF is receiving.
>
>
>
> On the high level principle this would be fine. However, it makes me 
> ask the first question if IRSG is the right entity. It likely are, but 
> I lack the insight into IRTF management to say that. Secondly, this 
> will be the first mention of the IRSG in the document. So some 
> introduction or at least reference appears to be needed.
>
> Cheers
>
> Magnus Westerlund
>
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