Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 10 April 2019 13:40 UTC

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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 09:40:42 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Barry,

Agree completely.  While a personally prefer to treat the two
positions as separate (and requiring separate removal actions)
for the reason you describe, my main concern is only that we
reach some agreement and be clear about it.  This is not the
sort of thing we can, as John Levine and Bob Hinden suggested
for what I assume are other issues, wait until there is a
problem and then sort things out ex post facto.

thanks,
   john


--On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 08:50 -0400 Barry Leiba
<barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

>> It also raises the question I've tried to ask before: if an
>> IESG member (Chair or otherwise) who is serving as a Director
>> resigns or is recalled from the IESG, does that action remove
>> that person from the LLC Board position, or are the two
>> positions essentially separate?
> 
> Alissa's proposed text addresses that by making it clear that
> regardless of how the IESG appointee is appointed, the person
> serves a full term as LLC Director.
> 
> That does mean that, with a recall situation, there need to be
> two recalls done.  Perhaps they could be bundled into one
> recall (in the case, for instance, of someone who disappears).
> But I think it's good to be able to separate them, in a case,
> say, of an AD who is egregiously bad, but who is doing fine on
> the LLC Board.
> 
> Barry