Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

[Alissa Cooper <[e-mail]>]

Hi Brian,

> On Apr 9, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Did the WG analyze every possible ramification? No. But as far as I'm
>>> concerned this was a conscious choice that obtained WG consensus.
>> 
>> Of course the WG didn't and couldn't analyze *every* possibility;
>> please don't try to pull my concern into appearing ridiculous.
> 
> Sorry, that implication was an unintended side-effect.
> 
> What I'm getting at is that we have a method of removing any IESG
> member from the IESG (i.e. a recall) and two methods of removing
> NomCom-appointed LLC Directors (section 6.7 of the draft). But
> I now see that we've failed to define a method of removing the
> IESG-appointed LLC Director if that became appropriate.

This is not correct. As Joe pointed out, any director can be removed via the IETF recall process.

Alissa

> That does
> seem to need fixing. As long as Directors can be removed, we
> don't need to analyze all possible contingencies.
> 
> So how about changing the language to make it clear that the
> IESG can remove as well as appoint their Director?
> 
> Skipping to later in the thread, I prefer your suggestion #2:
> 
>>> 2. Make it clear that once the IESG appoints an AD as Director, that
>>> person will serve her full term (modulo resignation, and see below),
>>> regardless of whether she remains an AD.  It sounds like this is the
>>> best way to make everyone on this discussion thread happy, but I think
>>> we still need to go to the working group for consensus on it.
> 
> I definitely agree with your suggestion that there needs to be
> some language to cover mid-term replacement.
> 
>     Brian
>