Re: [Iasa20] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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(resending with fewer recipients to get past the mod queue) On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:23 PM Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is not correct. As Joe pointed out, any director can be removed via > the IETF recall process. > > I don't think so. Agreed, the draft says: > > > Directors may also be removed via the > > IETF recall process defined in [I-D.ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis], > > Section 7. > > But that Section 7 says: > > > The following rules apply to the recall process. If necessary, a > > paragraph discussing the interpretation of each rule is included. > > > > It applies to IESG and IAB Members, the NomCom appointed IETF Trust > > Trustees, and the NomCom appointed IETF LLC Directors. > > That *does not* include the IESG-appointed LLC Director, even > if they are an IESG member. > > If that's a drafting error in 7437bis, my point would be > satisfied by fixing it. > Yes, I was certainly operating with the understanding that the IESG-appointed LLC Board member could be recalled. It looks like that document would need to be changed in a few more places to make sure IETF recall applied to an IESG-appointed LLC Board member. -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871
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