Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 09 January 2019 19:58 UTC
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To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>, Nick Doty <npdoty@ischool.berkeley.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis
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Hi, On 2019-01-10 02:42, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > Thank you, Nick. Responses inline: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:37 PM Nick Doty <npdoty@ischool.berkeley.edu> > wrote: ... >> There's a lot of passive voice in these descriptions, which makes it >> unclear who is making these decisions or executing these actions. ... > So, we are in essence ratifying the choices made by the IASA2 WG with this > document, but events external to the IETF process had to happen before the > IETF process could complete work on this document. Let's be precise here. If this document 1. successfully passes IETF Last Call, and 2. is approved by the IESG, and 3. is published as a BCP RFC, and 4. is duly noted by the ISOC Board (like all our process documents) then IASA2 will be ratified. Those are the mandatory steps; this working group is doing the spadework to get us to step 1. I actually think the passive voice is the correct choice since these formal steps have not yet happened. For how the actual choice to proceed was made, see my recent interchange with Alissa: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/iasa20/tPie0MC9Gdj_FDbh86vcLe_EtaI Brian
- [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Eliot Lear (elear)
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Nick Doty
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] WGLC: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis Bob Hinden