Re: [Iasa20] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-09: (with COMMENT)
Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Thu, 11 April 2019 17:28 UTC
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:28:01 -0500
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on
draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-09: (with COMMENT)
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:25:00AM -0700, Ted Hardie wrote: > Howdy, > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:48 AM Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:05 AM Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote: > > > >> > >> Section 7.7 > >>> > >>> The IETF LLC exists to support the IETF, IAB, and IRTF. Therefore, > >>> the IETF LLC's funding and all revenues, in-kind contributions, and > >>> other income that comprise that funding shall be used solely to > >>> support activities related to the IETF, IAB, IRTF, and RFC Editor, > >>> and for no other purposes. > >>> > >>> Why are the lists in the first and second sentences different? > >>> > >> > >> Because the RFC Editor is contracted through the IAB, but that somewhere > >> in the WG discussion it felt important to call out in the second list. I > >> don't think we can just add the RFC Editor to the first list... but we > >> could do something like this: "The IETF LLC exists to support the IETF, > >> IRTF, and IAB (through which the RFC Editor receives support)." > >> > > > > Mirja pointed out correctly that the RFC Editor is contracted by the LLC, > > so I am wrong here. best, Joe > > > > It's a bit more complicated than that, but since we are creating a 6635bis, > maybe leave this topic to the that? To be clear, I'm not insisting on a change here, and just wondered if the lists were supposed to be synchronized (or not). -Ben
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- Re: [Iasa20] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on dra… Ted Hardie
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