Re: [Ibnemo] [Sdn] Defining a Common Model for intent
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Subject: Re: [Ibnemo] [Sdn] Defining a Common Model for intent
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Hi, May be we should start using different words for both meanings of "role", focused on the different mechanisms that would define them. Functional roles would consist of the set of actions (functionality) available, according to the view that role has via the network abstraction available to it. Access roles would consist of the the set of objects and actions that are available to that role when the security policies are applied, typically by means of RBAC. Thinking about it, access role permissions should be applied on the objects and actions available to the functional roles the user has, so we are not talking about independent dimensions here, but of an ordered composition of the different kind of roles. Be goode, On 11 Jun 2015, at 10:35 , PEDRO ANDRES ARANDA GUTIERREZ <pedroa.aranda@telefonica.com<mailto:pedroa.aranda@telefonica.com>> wrote: Hi Tianran, Let Diego clarify, I might be introducing noise here. So I’d like to start exploring the infrastructure vs. Role intent ‘plane’. Best, /PA De: Zhoutianran <zhoutianran@huawei.com<mailto:zhoutianran@huawei.com>> Fecha: jueves, 11 de junio de 2015 09:48 Para: PEDRO ANDRES ARANDA GUTIERREZ <pedroa.aranda@telefonica.com<mailto:pedroa.aranda@telefonica.com>>, "zhangyali (D)" <zhangyali369@huawei.com<mailto:zhangyali369@huawei.com>>, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com<mailto:diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>> CC: Sue Hares <shares@ndzh.com<mailto:shares@ndzh.com>>, "ibnemo@ietf.org<mailto:ibnemo@ietf.org>" <ibnemo@ietf.org<mailto:ibnemo@ietf.org>> Asunto: RE: [Ibnemo] RE: [Sdn] Defining a Common Model for intent Hi Pedro, These examples are good starting point. But I think the security you mentioned in the example is different from what Diego mentioned in other email. I guess the security dimension Diego metioned is something like the Role Based Access Control. That means, IMHO, a user can have the accessable/usable intent based on his role. In your second example, the security is the more about function in firewall or router, like ACL. Terence --- Dr. Pedro A. Aranda Gutiérrez Technology Exploration - Network Innovation & Virtualisation email: pedroa d0t aranda At telefonica d0t com Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo C/ D. Ramón de la Cruz,84 28006 Madrid, Spain Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden. Fragen sind da, um gestellt zu werden. Georg Kreisler -- "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" Dr Diego R. Lopez Telefonica I+D http://people.tid.es/diego.lopez/ e-mail: diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com Tel: +34 913 129 041 Mobile: +34 682 051 091 ---------------------------------- ________________________________ Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilización, divulgación y/o copia sin autorización puede estar prohibida en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su destrucción. The information contained in this transmission is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error and then delete it. Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu destinatário, pode conter informação privilegiada ou confidencial e é para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se não é vossa senhoria o destinatário indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, utilização, divulgação e/ou cópia sem autorização pode estar proibida em virtude da legislação vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destruição
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