Re: [Ibnemo] service based intent
Zhoutianran <zhoutianran@huawei.com> Fri, 16 October 2015 10:02 UTC
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From: Zhoutianran <zhoutianran@huawei.com>
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "ibnemo@ietf.org" <ibnemo@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ibnemo] service based intent
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Hi Sue, You raised a very interesting topic. In the NEMO implementation in ODL, we have some embedded types for Node and Connection. For example, we will have point to point, point to multi point, and mesh connections with QoS and bandwidth properties. But NEMO language and engine enable the dynamic import of new models. The L3VPN type you shown in the case is a very good example. And I think many other models developed by IETF can also be used by NEMO language to express the service intent. The NEMO language could be the glue to connect many models, and instantiate services, apply policies. WRT your question on the model expression, whether to support hierarchy. It depend on the demand from use cases, as the intent is going to be simple can clear. I current implementation we do not support unfortunately, because that will increase the complexity. But it's a very good discussion point that 1. whether we really need this? 2. Whether we can find a elegant way to express the hierarchy. I really look forward to your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Tianran From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:16 PM To: ibnemo@ietf.org Cc: 'PEDRO ANDRES ARANDA GUTIERREZ'; Zhoutianran; 'Bert Wijnen (IETF)' Subject: service based intent Hi all: I could really use some help this week on service-based intent as I'm trying to link service-based intent to the various service modes. At IETF 93, we described the application expressing their service level needs at a service level by expressing the service needs, and letting the Intent based work negotiate the service. I would like to explore how this works for five different types of services: L3VPN, L2VPN, and EVPN, Cable-network services, B-2B. However, let me start with the L3VPN which has an IETF service level description (draft-ietf-l3sm-l3vpn-service-model-01) or https://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-ietf-l3sm-l3vpn-service-model-01.pdf. See the bottom of the page for the diagram of an L3VPN network. L3SM The L3VPN Service model limits is description to BGP PE-Based VPNs as described in [RFC4110] and [RFC4364]. The L3SM model is input to the orchestration system shown in the diagram below this text. The L3SM provides two top level information: 1) vpn-svc [name] 2) sites* [site-id] vpn-svc [name] list has the following components per service: * name, id, customer-name, topology id, cloud access, mpls, multicast tree sites [id] list has the following components per site: * Site-id * Apply-template (yes/no) * site level parameters [start/stop service time, location, site diversity, availability, management, vpn policies, maximum number of routes, management, VPN policies, customer-info, security, physical attachment (aka bearer), service parameters (bandwidth in/out, QOS, traffic protection, mpls, protocols-run), site templates An example from draft-ietf-l3sm-l3vpn-service-model-01 is: <vpn-svc> <name>ZKITYHJ054687</name> <id>12456487</id> <customer-name>CUSTOMER_1</customer-name> <topology>any-to-any</topology> <cloud-access> <cloud-identifier>51</cloud-identifier> <nat-enabled>true</nat-enabled> <nat-address>1.1.1.1</nat-address> </cloud-access> </vpn-svc> IB-Nemo Intent to Create this L3SM Concept: IBNemo - would have the sites become nodes with specific EndNodes as the end nodes at each site. The L3VPN would be created by the following statement: Create Connection ZKITYHJ054687 Type L3SM EndNodes <site_1> <site_2> <site_3> ... <site_n> Property id: 1245487; customer-name: Customer1; topology: any-to-any; cloud-access-cloud-identifier: 51; cloud-access-nat-enabled: true; cloud-access-nat-address: 1.1.1.1; mpls-signaling-type: BGP; multicast-tree: SSM; The problem is that one would like hierarchy in the property so that one can give cloud access the following type of syntax: Create Property cloud-access [id] { identifier: 51; nat-enabled: true; nat-address: 1.1.1.1; } Is this possible with Nemo properties? This would shorten the definition to: Create Connection ZKITYHJ054687 Type L3SM EndNodes <site_1> <site_2> <site_3> ... <site_n> Property id: 1245487; customer-name: Customer1; topology: any-to-any; cloud-access: 51; mpls-signaling-type: BGP; multicast-tree: SSM; Thank you. Background info ------------------ The sites is a list of sites where each site has the following information: * Site-id * Apply-template (yes/no) * site level parameters: o Requested start/stop o Actual start/stop o Location: address, zip, city, country code, o Site diversity - (type, site-group) o Availability (Availability type (service-type, access-type), Loadsharing: type) o Management: Type, transport, address o VPN policies o Maximum number of routes o Customer specified information o Security (apply template, authentication, encryption) o Attachment (apply template, bearer, ip-connection) o Service (apply template, Bandwidth In, Bandwith out, svc-mtu, QOS, traffic protection, mpls, multicast, prototype type) o Site-templates ASCII diagram for L3VPN-SVC Model L3VPN-SVC | MODEL | | +------------------+ +-----+ | Orchestration | < --- > | OSS | +------------------+ +-----+ | | +----------------+ | | Config manager | | +----------------+ | | | | Netconf/CLI ... | | +------------------------------------------------+ Network +++++++ + AAA + +++++++ +++++++ Bearer ++++++++ ++++++++ +++++++ + CEA + ------- + PE A + + PE B + ----- + CEB + +++++++ Cnct ++++++++ ++++++++ +++++++ Site A Site B
- [Ibnemo] service based intent Susan Hares
- Re: [Ibnemo] service based intent Zhoutianran
- Re: [Ibnemo] service based intent PEDRO ANDRES ARANDA GUTIERREZ