Re: [Ibnemo] 答复: [Supa] SUPA call: 7:30-8:30am, Monday, July 13, San Francisco time

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To: Xiayinben <xiayinben@huawei.com>, Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>, "Scott O. Bradner" <sob@sobco.com>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
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+1

> Your sentence: “IBNemo – 'intent' means I express a desired topology and its properties.”

This is a very gross oversimplification of our “Node”. We are actually expressing a set of well-known functionalities with it. A router could be a box as we know it now, a virtual function or a set of boxes and functions like the one supplied by the Atrium[1] project

Best, /PA
[1] https://www.opennetworking.org/component/content/article/26-news-and-events/press-releases/2327-open-networking-foundation-releases-atrium-open-sdn-software-distribution

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De: Ibnemo <ibnemo-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ibnemo-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Xiayinben <xiayinben@huawei.com<mailto:xiayinben@huawei.com>>
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Para: Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com<mailto:Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>>, "Scott O. Bradner" <sob@sobco.com<mailto:sob@sobco.com>>, Sue Hares <shares@ndzh.com<mailto:shares@ndzh.com>>
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Asunto: [Ibnemo] 答复: [Supa] SUPA call: 7:30-8:30am, Monday, July 13, San Francisco time

Hi Tina and all,

I do not agree with your word about NEMO/ibnemo in page 8.

Your sentence: “NEMO uses a flatter, simpler object model with fewer objects to represent targets of policy. NEMO does not define a policy model, and does not support ECA policies. NEMO uses a condition-action paradigm to execute its policy commands.”
The truth is that NEMO define an object model and an operation model to represent network abstraction for intent NBI, because NEMO’s target is a simplified network interface(Intent NBI) for application even for ender-user.  policy is only a type of operation in Intent NBI. NEMO doesn’t NEED to define a new policy model, because industry already has well defined policy model(such as RFC 3460). We will not rebuild a wheel.

Your sentence: “IBNemo – 'intent' means I express a desired topology and its properties.”
The truth  is that Ibnemo –‘Intent’ means user simply and intuitively  express demands of network resource and/or network behavior. Topology and its properties are typical type of network resource, so they are part of network intent, but not all.

Best regards,
Yinben
发件人: Supa [mailto:supa-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Tina TSOU
发送时间: 2015年7月15日 15:42
收件人: Scott O. Bradner; Susan Hares
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主题: Re: [Supa] SUPA call: 7:30-8:30am, Monday, July 13, San Francisco time

Dear all,

Enclosed pls find the updated slides based on Monday July 13 call discussion, only page 8 added.


Thank you,
Tina

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Subject: Re: [Supa] SUPA call: 7:30-8:30am, Monday, July 13, San Francisco time

Dear Scott and Sue,

Regarding “2.2. Relationship to other WGs (Scott/Sue et al, 5 minutes)” (Times are the ones in the call next week – not the BOF), attached is a quick update based on Jun’s presentation in last BoF, according to the discussion after Dallas.

Feel free to use or update the slides.


Thank you,
Tina

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Subject: [Supa] SUPA call: 7:30-8:30am, Monday, July 13, San Francisco time


Dear all,



Below is the draft agenda and logistics for next call during 7:30-8:30am, Monday, July 13, San Francisco time.



Look forward to talking to many of you at the meeting.



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1. Note Well, logistics, agenda bashing (chairs, 5 min)



2. Slides Preparation for the BoF (Times are the ones in the call next week – not the BOF)



2.1. Goals, Framework, Examples (Max, Oscar (Luis) et al, 10 minutes)

2.2. Relationship to other WGs (Scott/Sue et al, 5 minutes)

2.3. Information Model Overview (John et al, 5 minutes)

2.4. Data Model Overview (Andy et al, 5 minutes)

2.5. Charter presentation (Dan/Juergen et al, 10 minutes)

2.6. Discussion on whether the progress assessment implies going forward changes to the charter (all, 15 minutes)

2.7. Questions to the audience (chairs, 10 minutes)



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