Re: [icalendar] [IANA #453987] Registration of new iCalendar property
Phillip Mienk <phillip@shingl.com> Fri, 27 May 2011 01:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [icalendar] [IANA #453987] Registration of new iCalendar property
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I'm new to this list and in looking over the draft, I have a question about the fundamental intent of iana-tokens. In my reading of rfc5545 I was under the impression that properties (and by extension iana-tokens) were meant to encode semantic information. Is this inference in error? It appears to me that the concept of xml-encoding is akin to the difference between a date and date-time. In the same way that the start and end of an appointment are encoded by DTSTART and DTEND as opposed to some 'DATETIME' or 'DATE' property. I would think that the semantic title of the content of the xml-encoded information would be the intended token/property name and the encoding be communicated via parameter. Please let me know where I have strayed in my understanding. -- Phillip Mienk On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Bernard Desruisseaux < bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com> wrote: > Here's my review of section 4.2 of draft-daboo-et-al-icalendar-in-xml-10: > > 1- Change: > > Purpose: To embed XML-encoded calendar data in the iCalendar format > > to: > > Purpose: To embed extended XML-encoded iCalendar data in the iCalendar format > > > 2- Change: > > Conformance: The property can appear on any iCalendar component. > > to: > > Conformance: This property can be specified multiple times in any > calendar component. > > > 3- Text should make it clear whether the value can include an XML > declaration or not (i.e., <?xml version="1.0" ... ?>). > > > 4- May want to remove or relax the restriction on "X-" iCalendar extension > property in the following paragraph, since one never can tell whether there > is such an extension being used out there. > > The "XML" > property MUST NOT be used to contain properties that are already > defined in iCalendar, or properties that use the "X-" iCalendar > extension property syntax. > > > 5- Change: > > Note that the source XML may contain characters not allowed in > iCalendar such as control characters. > > to: > > Note that the source XML may contain characters not allowed in > "TEXT" property values. > > It might also be a good idea to talk about the special characters that can > simply be escaped with a BACKSLASH.. > > > 6- Change: > > There can be more than one "XML" property present for a given > iCalendar object. The ordering of "XML" properties is not preserved > in the conversion between xCal and iCalendar. > > to: > > The ordering of "XML" properties is not preserved in the conversion > between xCal and iCalendar. > > > 7- The example is not a valid iCalendar object. DTSTART is missing the > VALUE parameter (i.e., DTSTART;*VALUE=DATE*:20081006). There is actually > no need to specify a complete iCalendar object as an example. Please > consider providing a complete XML example instead (i.e., without "..."). > > Cheers, > Bernard > > On 5/25/2011 1:53 PM, Amanda Baber via RT wrote: > > Hi Bernard, > > As one of the designated experts for iCalendar, can you review this > proposed registration for us? > > thanks, > > Amanda Baber > IANA > > === > > Hi, > As per the requirements of the iCalendar IANA registration procedures I > am requesting approval of a new iCalendar property registration. This > property is being registered by draft-daboo-et-al-icalendar-in-xml-09. > In particular, Section 7.3 lists the new items and the section where its > template is defined. > > Note: I am one of the designated expert reviewers for this registry but > will recuse myself since I am a co-author of this document. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > icalendar mailing list > icalendar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icalendar > >
- [icalendar] Registration of new iCalendar property Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [icalendar] [IANA #453987] Registration of ne… Bernard Desruisseaux
- Re: [icalendar] [IANA #453987] Registration of ne… Phillip Mienk
- Re: [icalendar] [IANA #453987] Registration of ne… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [icalendar] [IANA #453987] Registration of ne… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [icalendar] Registration of new iCalendar pro… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [icalendar] [IANA #453987] Registration of ne… Bernard Desruisseaux