Re: [Icar] an early review experiment
Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> Wed, 19 May 2004 19:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Icar] an early review experiment
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On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, at 10:49 AM, Mark Allman wrote: > + one end of the spectrum would be that ICAR-type comments must be > addressed before the document moves forward > > + the other end of the space seems to me to be that the ICAR-type > reviews are just like any other review that comes in from a > community member (i.e., no special status) > > + there may be middle ground I'm in the middle ground. It seems to me that what ICAR-type reviews bring to the wg is external context and persective that isn't available within the working group. I wouldn't like to see working group responsibility for the quality of their own product be shifted to non- participants. What I think we need is more checks as documents progress, and while a working group needs to take review comments very seriously, sometimes a reviewer is full of crap, too. I don't think it's the role of this working group (icar) to make fundamental changes to the standardization process and responsibilities. More validity checks on working group documents earlier in the process: great. Changing the process so that reviewers become responsible for working group documents: not so great. And giving reviewers what's essentially veto power over documents gives them responsibility for those documents. Melinda _______________________________________________ Icar mailing list Icar@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar
- [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- RE: [Icar] an early review experiment Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Pekka Savola
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Pekka Savola
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Allison Mankin
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Alex Rousskov
- [Icar] ICAR charter scope and review management Alex Rousskov
- [Icar] Re: ICAR charter scope and review manageme… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [Icar] Re: ICAR charter scope and review mana… Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman