Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability

"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Tue, 09 March 2004 03:50 UTC

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FWIW, my understanding of the current "IETF Last Call" mechanics is
that reviewers today are, in the final analysis, "uncontrolled". A
scathing review correctly pointing out technical flaws is always
admissible at any point in the review cycle, all the way through
publication by the RFC Editor, no matter who wrote it or why.

If we don't think anyone except area directors reads documents any
more, discussion about "reviewers inside/outside the management
structure" might make sense. I had hoped that we would not be starting
down that road.

Having a Internet Review Board that is entirely independent of current
management structures works for me. Having an Internet Review Board
that "reports" to the IAB works for me. We may end up with Area Review
Teams, but that is *not* the only reasonable answer.

Spencer

From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc@dcrocker.net>

> --- (edited) JABBER LOG ---
>
> dcrocker says: I strongly suggest that the review function be
> independent of the IETF administrative management team. The
reviewing
> stuff is not about helping an "area" or dealing with any aspect of
> working group process. It is strictly for technical commentary.
>
> hta: every time dave says something, I have to say the opposite. if
you
> want to create a body with power and responsibility outside the IETF
> management structure with power and responsibility, be careful what
you
> ask for


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