Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability
"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Tue, 09 March 2004 03:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability
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FWIW, my understanding of the current "IETF Last Call" mechanics is that reviewers today are, in the final analysis, "uncontrolled". A scathing review correctly pointing out technical flaws is always admissible at any point in the review cycle, all the way through publication by the RFC Editor, no matter who wrote it or why. If we don't think anyone except area directors reads documents any more, discussion about "reviewers inside/outside the management structure" might make sense. I had hoped that we would not be starting down that road. Having a Internet Review Board that is entirely independent of current management structures works for me. Having an Internet Review Board that "reports" to the IAB works for me. We may end up with Area Review Teams, but that is *not* the only reasonable answer. Spencer From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc@dcrocker.net> > --- (edited) JABBER LOG --- > > dcrocker says: I strongly suggest that the review function be > independent of the IETF administrative management team. The reviewing > stuff is not about helping an "area" or dealing with any aspect of > working group process. It is strictly for technical commentary. > > hta: every time dave says something, I have to say the opposite. if you > want to create a body with power and responsibility outside the IETF > management structure with power and responsibility, be careful what you > ask for _______________________________________________ Icar mailing list Icar@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar
- [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Late review management (Re: [Icar] independence o… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… David Meyer
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… David Meyer
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… David Meyer
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Eric Rosen
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Scott W Brim
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… avri
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Eric Rosen
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Mark Allman