RE: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-00.txt
"Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> Fri, 26 March 2004 12:43 UTC
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From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>, icar@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-00.txt
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:37:49 +0100
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Brian writes/comments: > > I realise this is an oldish version but I do have a few comments... > > > 2.1 Overview > > > > Briefly, the cross-functional review process may be described as fol- > > lows. > > > > Each area has an area review team (ART) which ADs delegate the > > interim document review function to. When necessary (early in the > > process, or during the WG Last call, or both), the WG chairs request > > the review for a document by sending an e-mail to all required ARTs > > (at a minimum the ART of the area the WG belongs to). > > I don't see why it has to be the WG chairs, in the case of early review. > As soon as a document is in serious discussion, I think the authors should > be able to request a review. We should be strongly encouraging early review. > By letting the WG chairs ask for it, it would (I hope) be clear that it is a document under consideration by a WG. > If it is a review required as part of a last call process, it's fine that > the WG chairs request it - but that is already too late for the first > cross-area review. > > The other advantage of allowing authors to request review is that it > provides a path for early review of independent submissions. That is > a hole in the draft. > I would appreciate cross-area review of all documents. But if we could get to the point FIRST to have all WG produced documents to get more and better (and earlier) cross-area review, then we would have gained a lot. Once we do better in that space I would start to worry more about independent submissions. Bert _______________________________________________ Icar mailing list Icar@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar
- [Icar] I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-00.txt Internet-Drafts
- [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-00.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Alex Zinin
- [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-zinin-icar-arts-0… Brian E Carpenter