Re: [Icar] Fwd: Change to ForCES List Moderation Policy

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Wed, 28 April 2004 12:23 UTC

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:34:00 +0200
From: Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>
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iirc, mailman allows the list administrator to white-list
specific non-subscribers, so clearly Joel is correct, and
reviewers working for a given WG should indeed be able to
post, at least if it's using the official IETF list support.

    Brian

Joel M. Halpern wrote:

> The message below represents a common (and probably appropriate) mailing 
> list policy now being used by the ForCES working group.
> 
> The reason I am copying the ICAR list is that policies like this have an 
> impact on some (but not all proposed) cross-area review mechanisms.  It 
> seems likely that many early reviewers will not be active working group 
> participants and will not want to receive all working group email.  I 
> would hope that reviewers will be willing to discuss their reviews and 
> concerns with the working group.
> With anti-spam policies that are frequently used here, there are 
> obstacles / delays in the way of that dialog.
> It seems likely that in any review proposal which would be affected by 
> this we should recommend mechanisms for working groups to use to 
> minimize the impact (for example, white-listing reviewers.)
> Just a suggestion as a participant.
> 
> Yours,
> Joel
> 
> 
>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:32:36 -0700
>> Reply-To: "Putzolu, David" <david.putzolu@INTEL.COM>
>> Sender: Forwarding and Control Element Separation 
>> <FORCES@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
>> From: "Putzolu, David" <david.putzolu@INTEL.COM>
>> Subject: Change to ForCES List Moderation Policy
>> To: FORCES@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Due to the high volume of non-subscriber spam, the
>> ForCES list configuration is being changed as follows.
>>
>> - Previously non-subscriber mail was reviewed by the
>>   chairs and forwarded if appropriate
>> + Going forward, non-subscriber mail will be automatically
>>   rejected. Non-subscribers must contact me or Patrick
>>   (dro@zurich.ibm.com) directly to have their email
>>   forwarded to the list.
>>
>> Handling of subscriber posts remains unchanged, that is,
>> all subscriber posts are verified via a nonce to the
>> sender, then posted to the list.
>>
>> The ForCES mailing list moderation policy is fully
>> explained at:
>> http://www.sstanamera.com/~forces/mailing.html
>>
>> -David
> 
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