IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Icar] Re: ICAR charter scope and review management

Alex Rousskov <rousskov@measurement-factory.com> Wed, 19 May 2004 22:50 UTC

Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA26484 for <icar-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:50:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQZnr-0007Mt-Lw for icar-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:44:47 -0400
Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i4JMil7T028321 for icar-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:44:47 -0400
Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQZfW-0004fm-Lj for icar-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:36:10 -0400
Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA25578 for <icar-web-archive@ietf.org>; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:36:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BQZfT-0004Ek-J8 for icar-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:36:07 -0400
Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BQZeZ-000491-00 for icar-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:35:12 -0400
Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BQZe7-000433-00 for icar-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:34:43 -0400
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQZXl-0002RQ-MH; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:28:09 -0400
Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQZO2-0006Zc-M7 for icar@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:18:06 -0400
Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA24682 for <icar@ietf.org>; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:18:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BQZNz-0002Hb-KH for icar@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:18:03 -0400
Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BQZN1-0002C1-00 for icar@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:17:04 -0400
Received: from measurement-factory.com ([206.168.0.5]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BQZMX-000270-00 for icar@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:16:33 -0400
Received: from measurement-factory.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by measurement-factory.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i4JMGSp6003139; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:16:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com)
Received: (from rousskov@localhost) by measurement-factory.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i4JMGShb003138; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:16:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from rousskov)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:16:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: Alex Rousskov <rousskov@measurement-factory.com>
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com>
cc: icar@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Icar] Re: ICAR charter scope and review management
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040519173932.0224dec0@localhost>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0405191610300.77504@measurement-factory.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040519161941.0241a008@localhost> <20040519144950.EB9D977AA5C@guns.icir.org> <20040519144950.EB9D977AA5C@guns.icir.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20040519161941.0241a008@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20040519173932.0224dec0@localhost>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Sender: icar-admin@ietf.org
Errors-To: icar-admin@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: icar@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12
Precedence: bulk
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar>, <mailto:icar-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Id: Improved Cross-Area Review <icar.ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:icar@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:icar-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar>, <mailto:icar-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60

On Wed, 19 May 2004, Joel M. Halpern wrote:

> Mandating that a WG must respond formally and on record to all
> comments it receives at any point in its work may or may not be a
> good idea, but is a working group process question, not a cross-area
> review question.  I had read your (elided for brevity) comments as
> calling for the later.

I was calling for both, I guess. Even if ICAR scope prevents us from
developing a general mechanism for all reviews, it does not prevent us
from developing an in-scope mechanism that can be used equally well
for out-of-ICAR-scope reviews.

For example, we can say that WG MUST address all First Call and Last
Call cross-area review comments. We can they try to apply the same
principle to all First Call and Last Call comments, not just
cross-area ones.

Alex.

_______________________________________________
Icar mailing list
Icar@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar

v2.8.7 | Report a Bug | By Email