Fw: [Icar] Moving on with ICAR: WG formation and charter

"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Mon, 01 March 2004 05:20 UTC

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From: "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org>
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Subject: Fw: [Icar] Moving on with ICAR: WG formation and charter
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Dear co-chairs,

The attached e-mail may have been before your time (Alex was still
kicking ICAR forward at the time), but I am curious about your
thoughts on it.

I won't be able to attend the session (as of now), but am hoping that
we come up with some level of indirection, for everyone's benefit...

Spencer

From: "Alex Zinin" <zinin@psg.com>
To: "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org>
Cc: <icar@ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Icar] Moving on with ICAR: WG formation and charter


> Spencer,
>

[deleted down to]

>
> > I know Alex is the routing AD - are we trying to move from a
broadcast
> > LAN  in a working group to a routed network of reviewers? I've
been
> > following manet for a while, and think self-organizing routed
networks
> > is still a research topic :-} Actually, if this is what you are
trying
> > to do, it's worth saying so explicitly, because if this is what
you're
> > trying to do, we tend to rely on hierarchies for scalability :-{
>
> Nice one ;)
>
> Again, seems the new thread on review types should help.
> Using your analogy though, I think the goal should be to encourage
> paying more attention to the traffic on the broadcast segment,
> AND improve scalability of the router network so we can push
> more traffic through it.
>
> My frank opinion regarding improving the former (broadcast or
> unstructured review) is that it cuts into the area of motivation and
> incentive, and we as the organization can only do so much here by
> making sure people find required information easier, maybe give more
> credits, etc. I personally do not know how to make sure more people
> "care about the Internet" more...
>
> Alex


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