Re: [Icar] icar futures?
Mark Allman <mallman@icir.org> Thu, 14 October 2004 12:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Icar] icar futures?
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> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Mark Allman wrote: > > * "we don't need the IESG" > > > > I agree that we do not need this bit of help from the IESG to get > > things started. I think the broader issue here is that the IESG is > > not enthusiastic about ICAR early review. Is it reasonable to hope > > to see this sort of thing widely used without some support from the > > IESG? (Maybe it is... but, I'd like to hear someone argue the > > point.) > > The IESG is crucial for this to work. I'd suggest you ping IESG, > through Harald if necessary about this. > > One could ask that each AD tries to list 3-4 persons capable of ICAR > reviews they know of, and either the AD or you approach these persons > 1-on-1, soliciting help. We pitched this idea to Harald before the last IETF meeting as a way to seed the pool. His response in the meeting, as I recall, was that he didn't think the IESG was up for this. Rather, he thought they'd help by picking some WGs. That did not happen. Maybe Harald has a comment to insert here or would like to try again. > Remember, the fundamental problem is that broadcast don't work... > you'll have to approach the people the right way ("you were > recommended as a good reviewer, and we need YOUR help...").. I agree with that fundemental problem. On the flip side, I worry that while leaning on people to "volunteer" may produce a longer list of reviewers, that does not necessarily yield a useful pool at the end of the day. It doesn't even take the IESG to get names. I bet I could add a bunch of names to the list without too much effort. And, I bet there are others who could, as well. The fundemental question in my mind is whether this is a useful approach or not. allman
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