Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2

"Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com> Mon, 12 January 2004 21:00 UTC

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:51:42 -0500
To: Alex Zinin <zinin@psg.com>, icar@ietf.org
From: "Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com>
Subject: Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2
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Having seen the discussion since this was posted, I thought it sensible to 
comment that I thought this revision provided a good frame for the working 
group.  It defines the goals, some of the approaches, and a set of 
observable milestones in reasonable time frames.

Yours,
Joel M. Halpern

At 05:17 PM 1/8/2004 -0800, Alex Zinin wrote:

>Revision 2 below, please.
>
>--
>Alex
>
>    WG name: improved cross-area review (icar)
>
>    Chairs: <TBD>
>
>    General Area Director(s):
>     Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
>
>    General Area Advisor:
>     Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
>
>    Mailing list: icar@ietf.org
>    Subscription: icar-request@ietf.org
>    Archives : 
> https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/icar/current/maillist.html
>
>    WG Description:
>
>      The WG will work out mechanisms for improved cross-functional
>      review within the IETF, addressing the issues identified by the
>      PROBLEM WG. This includes a better community review, as well as
>      more structured pre-IESG review that may be used to improve
>      scalability of the IESG review function.
>
>      Definitions:
>
>       o Cross-functional review: document review covering different
>       aspects of Internet technology, including those represented by
>       WGs within different IETF areas.
>
>       o Community review: document review performed by individual IETF
>       participants and not caused by their responsibilities within
>       the IETF management structure.
>
>       o Structured review: more formal and role-based document review
>       performed by individuals assuming certain responsibilities (such
>       as by WG chairs, directorate and IESG members.)
>
>      It is an explicit goal of the WG to come up with mechanisms
>      encouraging earlier review of the documents. An early review is
>      best for catching architectural problems while they're still
>      relatively easy to solve. In particular, many cross-functional
>      interactions can be spotted and dealt with, thus avoiding many
>      "late surprises". A final review (currently done by the IESG) can
>      catch remaining cross-functional interactions, as well as deal
>      with overall quality issues.
>
>      The WG will cooperate with others in starting and evaluating
>      experiments with early community and structured reviews. The
>      evaluation of such experiments may be published as Informational
>      RFCs if the group so desires.
>
>      The WG will also coordinate with other WGs involved in the IETF
>      reform process on proposed changes to the IETF Working Group
>      operations and Standards process if those are considered
>      necessary.
>
>    WG milestones:
>
>      FEB 2004: Submit drafts on improved community and structured reviews
>      SEP 2004: Submit draft on improved community review to
>                the IESG for publication as BCP
>      SEP 2004: Submit draft on improved structured community review to
>                the IESG for publication as BCP
>      SEP 2005: Evaluate WG progress and potential; close or recharter
>
>
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