Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2
"Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com> Mon, 12 January 2004 21:00 UTC
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:51:42 -0500
To: Alex Zinin <zinin@psg.com>, icar@ietf.org
From: "Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com>
Subject: Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2
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Having seen the discussion since this was posted, I thought it sensible to comment that I thought this revision provided a good frame for the working group. It defines the goals, some of the approaches, and a set of observable milestones in reasonable time frames. Yours, Joel M. Halpern At 05:17 PM 1/8/2004 -0800, Alex Zinin wrote: >Revision 2 below, please. > >-- >Alex > > WG name: improved cross-area review (icar) > > Chairs: <TBD> > > General Area Director(s): > Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> > > General Area Advisor: > Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> > > Mailing list: icar@ietf.org > Subscription: icar-request@ietf.org > Archives : > https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/icar/current/maillist.html > > WG Description: > > The WG will work out mechanisms for improved cross-functional > review within the IETF, addressing the issues identified by the > PROBLEM WG. This includes a better community review, as well as > more structured pre-IESG review that may be used to improve > scalability of the IESG review function. > > Definitions: > > o Cross-functional review: document review covering different > aspects of Internet technology, including those represented by > WGs within different IETF areas. > > o Community review: document review performed by individual IETF > participants and not caused by their responsibilities within > the IETF management structure. > > o Structured review: more formal and role-based document review > performed by individuals assuming certain responsibilities (such > as by WG chairs, directorate and IESG members.) > > It is an explicit goal of the WG to come up with mechanisms > encouraging earlier review of the documents. An early review is > best for catching architectural problems while they're still > relatively easy to solve. In particular, many cross-functional > interactions can be spotted and dealt with, thus avoiding many > "late surprises". A final review (currently done by the IESG) can > catch remaining cross-functional interactions, as well as deal > with overall quality issues. > > The WG will cooperate with others in starting and evaluating > experiments with early community and structured reviews. The > evaluation of such experiments may be published as Informational > RFCs if the group so desires. > > The WG will also coordinate with other WGs involved in the IETF > reform process on proposed changes to the IETF Working Group > operations and Standards process if those are considered > necessary. > > WG milestones: > > FEB 2004: Submit drafts on improved community and structured reviews > SEP 2004: Submit draft on improved community review to > the IESG for publication as BCP > SEP 2004: Submit draft on improved structured community review to > the IESG for publication as BCP > SEP 2005: Evaluate WG progress and potential; close or recharter > > >_______________________________________________ >Icar mailing list >Icar@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar _______________________________________________ Icar mailing list Icar@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar
- [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Alex Zinin
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Pekka Savola
- RE: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Robert Snively
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 David Meyer
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Alex Zinin
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Melinda Shore
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 David Meyer
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 David Meyer
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Scott Bradner
- [Icar] File naming to help trigger review Michael A. Patton
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Alex Zinin
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] ICAR draft charter rev 2 Alex Zinin