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Re: [Icar] Re: Comments on draft-alvestrand-icar-xarea-00.txt

Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Sun, 02 May 2004 19:50 UTC

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Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 09:30:53 -0700
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>
Cc: icar@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Icar] Re: Comments on draft-alvestrand-icar-xarea-00.txt
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--On 2. mai 2004 10:17 +0200 Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> wrote:

> Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>>
>>
>> --On 30. april 2004 13:49 -0500 Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com wrote:
>>
>>>
> ...
>>> 2. The I-D is unclear about when the review team is actually involved
>>>    in doing the document reviews. It says late review. But just for
>>>    clarification does it imply post WG last call or IETF last call?
>>
>>
>> I was thinking post IETF Last Call, because Last Call comments should
>> form part of the input to the review team, just as for the IESG today.
>> Other models are possible. Good point!
>
> And this is a problem in the split model we seem to be evolving,
> with some mid-review done by WG-based teams and this very late review
> done by cross-area teams.
>
> IMHO cross-area review should be a continuous process, starting at the
> draft-authorname-...-00.txt version and continuing until the
> draft-ietf-...-99.txt version. The arguments for that opinion
> are in the SIRs draft.

trying to depart from the box I put on the table....
would it make sense to move the start of review-team review to (say) 
"publication requested", and only say that the *end* of review is 
constrained to be after Last Call?
Would also give reviewers more time.....




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